That is actual dedication, if you can sit through an entire musical with your daughter. I can't sit through anything. Good on you.ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 13:50Thats hilarious and very presumptious of you which isnt surprising at allWaffle waitress wrote: 24 May 2026, 12:51The fact that that story must have been reported, that you know about it and you still remember it to re-tell is sadly quite scary.ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 09:20
Didn't Ariana Grande go into a bakery and pick up a doughnut then lick it and put it back. Now that is proper rock n roll.![]()
Yeah i have a young daughter and i take an interest in her and her interests .
So we sat down the other day and watched Wicked and i said to her i thought Ariana was very good in it and not how i thought she would be, my daughter then told me that story in which we both laughed about it so i thought i would mention it now and try to be amusing.
I would rather do that than try and influence her and put my own likes and habits on to her i like her to grow up to be her own person an individual without my own likes thrusted on to her. Shes not a Stranglers fan of course she just hears me playing them i want her to live the life she was born into and not in to an antiquated band and music that was my time
I hope that relieves your fears a bit and I will be presumptions now and say you should lighten up a bit waffle and maybe get out more so you get to see beyond your Stranglers nose.
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I hate musicals as well but i can tell you i have endured much worse than that you build up a stamina for these things after a whileheadiscrowded wrote: 24 May 2026, 14:23That is actual dedication, if you can sit through an entire musical with your daughter. I can't sit through anything. Good on you.ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 13:50Thats hilarious and very presumptious of you which isnt surprising at allWaffle waitress wrote: 24 May 2026, 12:51
The fact that that story must have been reported, that you know about it and you still remember it to re-tell is sadly quite scary.![]()
Yeah i have a young daughter and i take an interest in her and her interests .
So we sat down the other day and watched Wicked and i said to her i thought Ariana was very good in it and not how i thought she would be, my daughter then told me that story in which we both laughed about it so i thought i would mention it now and try to be amusing.
I would rather do that than try and influence her and put my own likes and habits on to her i like her to grow up to be her own person an individual without my own likes thrusted on to her. Shes not a Stranglers fan of course she just hears me playing them i want her to live the life she was born into and not in to an antiquated band and music that was my time
I hope that relieves your fears a bit and I will be presumptions now and say you should lighten up a bit waffle and maybe get out more so you get to see beyond your Stranglers nose.
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Worse?!?!?! There's more wild and outrageous gig behaviour to tell about? Or worse like Barbie the movie?ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 14:57I hate musicals as well but i can tell you i have endured much worse than that you build up a stamina for these things after a whileheadiscrowded wrote: 24 May 2026, 14:23That is actual dedication, if you can sit through an entire musical with your daughter. I can't sit through anything. Good on you.ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 13:50
Thats hilarious and very presumptious of you which isnt surprising at all![]()
Yeah i have a young daughter and i take an interest in her and her interests .
So we sat down the other day and watched Wicked and i said to her i thought Ariana was very good in it and not how i thought she would be, my daughter then told me that story in which we both laughed about it so i thought i would mention it now and try to be amusing.
I would rather do that than try and influence her and put my own likes and habits on to her i like her to grow up to be her own person an individual without my own likes thrusted on to her. Shes not a Stranglers fan of course she just hears me playing them i want her to live the life she was born into and not in to an antiquated band and music that was my time
I hope that relieves your fears a bit and I will be presumptions now and say you should lighten up a bit waffle and maybe get out more so you get to see beyond your Stranglers nose.![]()
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You be presumtions all you want palThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 13:50Thats hilarious and very presumptious of you which isnt surprising at allWaffle waitress wrote: 24 May 2026, 12:51The fact that that story must have been reported, that you know about it and you still remember it to re-tell is sadly quite scary.ThinkTank wrote: 24 May 2026, 09:20
Didn't Ariana Grande go into a bakery and pick up a doughnut then lick it and put it back. Now that is proper rock n roll.![]()
Yeah i have a young daughter and i take an interest in her and her interests .
So we sat down the other day and watched Wicked and i said to her i thought Ariana was very good in it and not how i thought she would be, my daughter then told me that story in which we both laughed about it so i thought i would mention it now and try to be amusing.
I would rather do that than try and influence her and put my own likes and habits on to her i like her to grow up to be her own person an individual without my own likes thrusted on to her. Shes not a Stranglers fan of course she just hears me playing them i want her to live the life she was born into and not in to an antiquated band and music that was my time
I hope that relieves your fears a bit and I will be presumptions now and say you should lighten up a bit waffle and maybe get out more so you get to see beyond your Stranglers nose.
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They weren't throwing drinks, or not at the Reading Festival I was talking about. The drink was transferred into plastic bottles on entry to the festival, so there was no glass to throw. The drink was consumed and, after a while, the bottles re-filled with the liquid that had been, shall we say, "filtered" through the owner of said drink. That's what was in the plastic bottles that were being thrown.headiscrowded wrote: 24 May 2026, 14:18 What makes people want to throw drinks, anyway? Are they done with the main and it's only the dregs?
There was the famous incident in Liverpool Academy a few years back where someone threw a pint over JJ which caused a temporary halt to the gig. It was probably a pint of Carling, and the only reason that someone wouldn't want to chuck that (apart from the whole electrocution thing) would have been how much it cost in the venue.
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I dunno if this is off topic, but on the subject of drinks being thrown;
The first time I saw The Stranglers with Paul Roberts, Christmas 1995 at the Forum, Kentish Town. I went with an open mind but it was clear that not everyone in the audience was that way inclined. A lot of drinks were getting thrown and at one point Paul did a good impression of Rik from the Young Ones, saying something about someone being in “Very serious trouble”. There had been some kind of incident at a gig in Clapham the night before involving a glass getting thrown at Paul. They were videoing that night, but it was implied more for looking for drink throwers than capturing band footage, I have certainly never seen footage from that gig. I was a bit skeptical of the stranglers with Paul before that gig, but he won me over.
The last time I saw them with Paul, the infamous Shepherds Bush Christmas gig, 2005, filmed and commercially available. One moment that’s not captured in the film is the bar brawl that occurred, during “Burning Up Time” if I recall. There was a good half dozen twats involved in a punch up with plastic beer glasses flying everywhere, I have no idea what they were fighting over, but inane behaviour. I have no time for wankers who throw their drinks at bands, no matter how shit they are and same goes for throwing drinks over other punters. You have to be a combination of rich and stupid to throw drinks around, gig prices have always been overpriced for glorified watered down piss masquerading as beer
NB - I would not describe the above as outrageous behaviour, more moronic and pointless activity

The first time I saw The Stranglers with Paul Roberts, Christmas 1995 at the Forum, Kentish Town. I went with an open mind but it was clear that not everyone in the audience was that way inclined. A lot of drinks were getting thrown and at one point Paul did a good impression of Rik from the Young Ones, saying something about someone being in “Very serious trouble”. There had been some kind of incident at a gig in Clapham the night before involving a glass getting thrown at Paul. They were videoing that night, but it was implied more for looking for drink throwers than capturing band footage, I have certainly never seen footage from that gig. I was a bit skeptical of the stranglers with Paul before that gig, but he won me over.
The last time I saw them with Paul, the infamous Shepherds Bush Christmas gig, 2005, filmed and commercially available. One moment that’s not captured in the film is the bar brawl that occurred, during “Burning Up Time” if I recall. There was a good half dozen twats involved in a punch up with plastic beer glasses flying everywhere, I have no idea what they were fighting over, but inane behaviour. I have no time for wankers who throw their drinks at bands, no matter how shit they are and same goes for throwing drinks over other punters. You have to be a combination of rich and stupid to throw drinks around, gig prices have always been overpriced for glorified watered down piss masquerading as beer
NB - I would not describe the above as outrageous behaviour, more moronic and pointless activity
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Lads cap next to me in front of JJ, start of Toilertheraven1979 wrote: 20 May 2026, 23:14That you said no?Homer wrote:Ally Pally August 1990 ….. during the gig, looked to my right and a lad had a bird bent over and was shagging her from behind …. Asked me if I wanted a go which I declined.
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This? Was that a good gig? I know I had the dvd of it but I doubt I was able to sit through it. I prob couldn't even make it work. I found dvds very confusing. I just switched the youtube vid of Toiler off half way through as it sounded AWFUL!!!!! Lots of twangy western sounding geetar!!! But it sounded out of time and off key. Yuck. Is that why people badmouthed JE ?!?!?!?!?!??! Was it him making that noise?!?!?!? No wonder Hugh ran away after that. Ugh. Talk about outrageous.Homer wrote: 31 May 2026, 01:20Lads cap next to me in front of JJ, start of Toilertheraven1979 wrote: 20 May 2026, 23:14That you said no?Homer wrote:Ally Pally August 1990 ….. during the gig, looked to my right and a lad had a bird bent over and was shagging her from behind …. Asked me if I wanted a go which I declined.
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If you can get past the extra guitars (which I can) I love the Ally Pally version of Toiler. Great vibe.
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I did like the way Hugh sung it in later years butmarkorbit wrote: 01 Jun 2026, 02:44 If you can get past the extra guitars (which I can) I love the Ally Pally version of Toiler. Great vibe.
It's really sloooow thought. Listen to it then listen to the B&W version
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Twangy western guitar is basically Hugh's guitar throughout The Stranglers. It's the Tele and his style.
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headiscrowded wrote: 31 May 2026, 23:41Lots of twangy western sounding geetar!!!Homer wrote: 31 May 2026, 01:20Lads cap next to me in front of JJ, start of Toilertheraven1979 wrote: 20 May 2026, 23:14 That you said no?
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Toiler was too slow at the Ally Pally and the bass was mellowed right down. I was at the Ally Pally and it did have its moments but all in all i don't remember it being a great gig. I blame the venue as i was there for the whole weekend and other bands that i loved to see live at that time also had very average performance there too.
