One more single from Dark Matters?

[Samarkand]

Yet it was a top 5 hit. In 2021 this is success.

On the physical chart. In 2021 this is not the chart that counts.

Incorrect - it was no. 4 in "the chart that counts", not the physical sales only chart.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/a ... 0917/7502/

[StanInBlack]

Yet it was a top 5 hit. In 2021 this is success.

On the physical chart. In 2021 this is not the chart that counts.

Incorrect - it was no. 4 in "the chart that counts", not the physical sales only chart.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/a ... 0917/7502/

Yet it was nowhere to be seen in the streaming chart, which is how the majority of people consume music in 2021.

[alaninblack]

Yet it was nowhere to be seen in the streaming chart, which is how the majority of people consume music in 2021.

Sometimes I actually wonder if streaming figures are correct, for example is Hughs' most popular song on Spotify really "Johnny Remember Me" and there are no post Stranglers songs by Hugh alone at all that are "popular" and are being streamed ?? See this image from Spotify, is this really correct ? Or is there another "chart" I can search and look at for streaming figures ??

[parasiteinblack]

Yet it was nowhere to be seen in the streaming chart, which is how the majority of people consume music in 2021.

Sometimes I actually wonder if streaming figures are correct, for example is Hughs' most popular song on Spotify really "Johnny Remember Me" and there are no post Stranglers songs by Hugh alone at all that are "popular" and are being streamed ?? See this image from Spotify, is this really correct ? Or is there another "chart" I can search and look at for streaming figures ??

They should be the correct stream numbers, but the order depends on what's been listened to recently which is why they aren't just in descending order.
It's possible there's another more popular one on another album that just hasn't been streamed for a while, but Hugh's spotify numbers are quite low, so probably not.

[Bear Cage]

On the physical chart. In 2021 this is not the chart that counts.

Incorrect - it was no. 4 in "the chart that counts", not the physical sales only chart.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/a ... 0917/7502/

Yet it was nowhere to be seen in the streaming chart, which is how the majority of people consume music in 2021.

There are still a large number out there who don’t consume music only or primarily by streaming. Therefore there is the combined chart, which includes streaming, downloads and physical sales, so is a fair measure of overall popularity that week and is universally recognised as the ‘chart that counts’ (except by you in supporting your tirade against the current Stranglers, their latest release, and the level of success achievedj

[alaninblack]

Incorrect - it was no. 4 in "the chart that counts", not the physical sales only chart.
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/a ... 0917/7502/

Forgive me for being naïve, but I still think of the charts as being TOTP on a Thursday night. So the recognised charts by for example, the music business itself will refer to is:

https://www.officialcharts.com

Or will they only look at streaming figures on Spotify, Apple Music, Google and Amazon etc.. and not refer to https://www.officialcharts.com

TIA.

[evonx]

Johnny Remember Me is one of those classics that older people (even older than us) think of and type in without knowing who sang it 60 years ago. So the number of streams for Hugh is not strange at all.

Ok back to topic

[Greatkudu]

The charts mean fuck all now, but still happy for the Band that DMs charted in the crap charts of today, where people buy shit like Ed Sheerhan and others. Lt Kudu.

[droopsnoot]

There are still a large number out there who don’t consume music only or primarily by streaming.

I'd guess that covers a lot of fans of the age group that I would particularly associate with the Stranglers and with Hugh. Not all of them, certainly, bu when I picture a Hugh audience or a Stranglers audience, I picture that the majority* of them would rather buy it once and then listen to it as much as they like, rather than having to be connected to something to be able to listen.

(* Internal survey - not researched.)

[theraven1979]

Funny how the charts don't mean anything now yet when the band we're in there it meant everything


Jim

[marky]

Yes why is that? Half the time people on here hate the fact the stranglers are mainstream and in the charts then say they don’t get the recognition they deserve when they aren’t mentioned in a documentary or if nobody’s heard of the band except golden brown

[8088]

I picture that the majority* of them would rather buy it once and then listen to it as much as they like, rather than having to be connected to something to be able to listen.

(* Internal survey - not researched.)

Amen to that - I've just lost £600 of software because I haven't upgraded my Apple devices in years.