Dark Matters v Giants

[Yukio!]

Breathe sounds a bit Pinky Floydy to me!

It sounds terrible to me, but your mileage may vary. I think comparing it to Pink Floyd is far too kind... Pink Floyd at their peak were "greatest of all time" material. "Breathe" is a bit of a limp non-thing.

Breathe is actually my favourite track on DM. Maybe because it has that somewhat prog 70s feel. A masterpiece IMHO of course.

I didn’t think it was anything special upon first listen and thought it was a bit of an anticlimax to finish the record with. However having listened to it a lot, it’s certainly grown on me.

[toilerinblack]

It sounds terrible to me, but your mileage may vary. I think comparing it to Pink Floyd is far too kind... Pink Floyd at their peak were "greatest of all time" material. "Breathe" is a bit of a limp non-thing.

Breathe is actually my favourite track on DM. Maybe because it has that somewhat prog 70s feel. A masterpiece IMHO of course.

I didn’t think it was anything special upon first listen and thought it was a bit of an anticlimax to finish the record with. However having listened to it a lot, it’s certainly grown on me.

Yes after getting used to it Breathe's a cracker.

[StanInBlack]

We're ranking Hugh post-Stranglers albums now alongside post-Hugh Stranglers are we? Okay, then...

All of Hugh's (not including side projects, live albums and compilations) > all of the post-Hugh Stranglers albums. That was easy!

[aldinblack]

All depends if you like Pink Floyd, alot don't. Lt Kudu.

I used to listen to Pink Floyd quite a lot back in my youth.
Now my Floyd listening is restricted to 'Animals' and 'Meddle'.

'Breathe' does have a Floyd 1971 vibe about it. Good track.

Yes Animals is one of my favourite Floyd albums too. Every track on that is better than Breathe :-)

I like Meddle, except for the Liverpool football song bit!

Pink Floyd have such a vast expansive catalogue it's no wonder they have influenced so many bands, including our Stranglers and that's fine by me..

[Bogenbroom]

We're ranking Hugh post-Stranglers albums now alongside post-Hugh Stranglers are we? Okay, then...

All of Hugh's (not including side projects, live albums and compilations) > all of the post-Hugh Stranglers albums. That was easy!

I’m a big admirer of Hugh’s solo albums and I’d agree that many are comfortably at the top of tree, but would you really put Wired, say, which I think is a decidedly patchy record, ahead of everything the band have done since 1990?

[Jake]

I used to listen to Pink Floyd quite a lot back in my youth.
Now my Floyd listening is restricted to 'Animals' and 'Meddle'.

'Breathe' does have a Floyd 1971 vibe about it. Good track.

Yes Animals is one of my favourite Floyd albums too. Every track on that is better than Breathe :-)

I like Meddle, except for the Liverpool football song bit!

Pink Floyd have such a vast expansive catalogue it's no wonder they have influenced so many bands, including our Stranglers and that's fine by me..

Have they influenced the stranglers? I wasn’t really aware of that and would struggle to see where, do enlighten further.

I like bits and pieces of Floyd, the Syd Barret stuff in particular, which is worlds apart from anything that came after.

Meddle - not bad. Dark side of the moon is so overrated, Wish you were here is slightly better, but still very pompous. Animals on the other hand, as you suggest is a great album. It’s quite angry and it’s been said it fits with the punk era, even if the Floyd were the antithesis of Punk.
The Wall is alright, but far too long, I like the album many hate, the Final Cut, but everything post Roger Waters is dull as f imho.

Finally I was going to say some of the Roger Waters solo material, not least his album “Amused to Death” well it’s more my cup of tea than the vast majority of Post Barret Floyd. Which brings me to the only stranglers Floyd connection I can think of, that being JJ having a bit of a spat with Roger Waters who is massively involved in artists boycotting Israel

I’ve said this elsewhere but “Lines” is shockingly similar to the Floyd track “Mother” and one of Waters solo tracks featured on “When the Wind Blows”. Other than that I am less sure where I can hear the Floyd influence in the stranglers, particularly MK1, I can’t think of any examples if you could elaborate.

[Young Mr Grace]

I like Meddle, except for the Liverpool football song bit!

Yeah, I always skip that bit at the end of 'Fearless'

[Jon the Impaler]

Old Hugh he gets in everywhere, I didn't know he was part of Giants or Dark Matters. Lt Kudu.

Tbf the thread was always going take a turn. I’m gobsmacked there’s even one person who rates Giants over Dark Matters. Personally, I don’t even think it’s close.

Takes all sorts and that's what a forum is about , giving opinion without getting nasty . I've been on a forum , I no longer frequent it as there was/is a huge poisonous woke-ish element ( square all , Leeds United forum ) , a gang literally rip anyone apart who in slightest disagrees with their stance .I didn't t have any run one but got fed up with the oppressive atmosphere .I stick to Marching on together forum now for my football related .
Anyway , luckily here no matter who agrees or disagrees on what it doesn't get nasty , I think everyone accepts others view without getting heated . It's only songs anyway isn't it and if we all agreed it would be very full on here . So yes , I am surprised anyone would consider Giants better than DM , but it happens , some may even consider Giants the band's best ever masterpiece , makes good conversation anyway .

[8088]

Anyway , luckily here no matter who agrees or disagrees on what it doesn't get nasty , I think everyone accepts others view without getting heated .

Maybe you've been away? This is the single most abusive online space I've ever encountered!

[theraven1979]

That's why you're on here every minute of the day

Jim

Anyway , luckily here no matter who agrees or disagrees on what it doesn't get nasty , I think everyone accepts others view without getting heated .

Maybe you've been away? This is the single most abusive online space I've ever encountered!

[8088]

That's why you're on here every minute of the day

Jim

Anyway , luckily here no matter who agrees or disagrees on what it doesn't get nasty , I think everyone accepts others view without getting heated .

Maybe you've been away? This is the single most abusive online space I've ever encountered!

It's called having a thick skin - I notice that you aren't bothered that it's an abusive environment

[theraven1979]

I'm not a precious little petal - plus no one has been abusive. PM me if you think otherwise and I'll sort. Goes for anyone.

Jim

That's why you're on here every minute of the day

Jim

Maybe you've been away? This is the single most abusive online space I've ever encountered!

It's called having a thick skin - I notice that you aren't bothered that it's an abusive environment