He had to go. Norfolk Coast was/is really good but ultimately he was not a true born rocker, and really didn't suit the band. Having said that and arguing against myself, he was really good on the Norfolk Coast tour and also saw off the brass thankfully! There you go, Friday evening, I have been drinking, had me booster jab and am disagreeing with myself!StanInBlack wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:41I think if PR hadn't left the band, not only would Giants have been much stronger than it was but they probably would have put out more music by now.Cricklewood wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 18:04 The more I think about it, the more I would be curious of a Paul-led version of Stallion. I think his vocal style would suit well to the grand theatrics of it
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I think MKIII should have continued for longer, Norfolk Coast was brilliant and Paul was excellent live.
I think they would have a little fared better commercially for a little bit, maybe another top 40 hit or two until the streaming took over.
Not sure how many of the "so glad they're back to a four piece" gang they'd have won over though...
I think they would have a little fared better commercially for a little bit, maybe another top 40 hit or two until the streaming took over.
Not sure how many of the "so glad they're back to a four piece" gang they'd have won over though...
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I think Paul was really out of his comfort zone with Norfolk Coast. I'd like to see him singing "On Paper" though- with Dark Matters, one of the best releases of 2021. Thanks Parasite for being brill.
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I'd like to see that too.
And thanks, very kind of you.
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This version did of course record Suite too but it was unreleased and vocals re recorded , but I would have been extremely interested to compare the two versions . Guess we will never hear the PR versions .StanInBlack wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 17:42I wish PR hadn't left, to be honest with you. MKIII felt like a line-up that got cut short just as it was getting going.Cricklewood wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 17:39 From looking at the footage, I think the song would have benefited alot live if Paul was around as a 5 piece. It looked awkward with JJ half gesturing with his hands instead of them being on the bass. But with a separate lead singer, he would be free to play some extra basslines or something whilst Paul takes the bulk of the vocals
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This is fair comment. As far as I am concerned Paul reached his peak just as he was booted out of the stranglers. I like the way Paul sang a lot of classic stranglers material, and to put it diplomatically, Baz lacks the dynamic range, or undiplomatically- authenticity on a staggering amount of material he’s charged with doing lead vocals on.parasiteinblack wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 19:29 I think MKIII should have continued for longer, Norfolk Coast was brilliant and Paul was excellent live.
I think they would have a little fared better commercially for a little bit, maybe another top 40 hit or two until the streaming took over.
Not sure how many of the "so glad they're back to a four piece" gang they'd have won over though...
I still rate the SBE gig in 2005 as one of the best stranglers or solo gigs I’ve been to, and I saw the stranglers 3 times with Hugh. I’ve not seen a stranglers gig that came close to the 2005 SBE since to be honest, I haven’t seen the band without Jet and of course Dave and think it’s unlikely I will now, but have no ill will whatsoever to anyone who does.
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JJ rarely mentions the Paul Roberts era, if at all.Like it's been scrubbed from history.As if he's a bit embarrassed of it.
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"Paul was excellent live"
Really?
Ok he could sing, but acted like a knob. Not my cuppa tea at all.
The 4 piece return, apart from anything else, meant JJ started singing again. That alone made it worth it.
Really?
Ok he could sing, but acted like a knob. Not my cuppa tea at all.
The 4 piece return, apart from anything else, meant JJ started singing again. That alone made it worth it.
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Nor mine.I don't get why some fans loved it, I found it cringe.
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Yeah I was not a Paul fan at all really (although I liked ITN a lot) until I saw the band live, then it all just sort of clicked and I realised what a great job he was doing.
That's fair enough, that's your opinion. I agree he could be a knob sometimes but it was the music I was mostly interested in and he could be quite funny too and seems a genuinely nice guy.Ok he could sing, but acted like a knob. Not my cuppa tea at all.
Good point, but that may be literally the only positive from it.The 4 piece return, apart from anything else, meant JJ started singing again. That alone made it worth it.
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Ah, that was just his brand of flamboyant showmanship!aldinblack wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 21:43 Ok he could sing, but acted like a knob. Not my cuppa tea at all.
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Would love to hear that version. I did listen to Paul singing Summat Outanowt live, but that was the only track from Suite that I could find.Jon the Impaler wrote: ↑17 Dec 2021, 19:52 This version did of course record Suite too but it was unreleased and vocals re recorded , but I would have been extremely interested to compare the two versions . Guess we will never hear the PR versions .