They only change the set a little if a song isn't working.
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They only change the set a little if a song isn't working.
My advice drop Genetix,as it's truly awful IMHO.Major Styles.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 22:01They only change the set a little if a song isn't working.
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Yep,I'd agree with that.No argument.toilerinblack wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 21:46 What makes someone become a fan of any particular band....First and formost?
The music I would of thought
It' all about the music.
Yes..... nobody being arsed who is in the band comes across loud and clear.
Also of course, it is about the music, but the music is a product of those that made it. Take those personalities out of the music and it becomes something else. Like the difference between fresh bread and stale bread.
Look around - it's all a nostalgia trip, that's where live music is for bands like the Stranglers.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 I think this lineup and tour was always going to be questioned. As there's only JJ in the band and if I recall the last tour was supposed to be "the final tour" or whatever. The tours lean more and more on the MKI years and it's always an "anniversary" or "greatest hits" package. The radical thing about this tour is that we have "new" old MKI songs that haven't been played in a while.
At least you're making the tacit admission that he is trolling, that he's "being fed". He's not adding anything of value to this board, he's not offering reasoned debate, he's just attention seeking. I'd ban him from posting tbh.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 So the longer it goes on the more people question the integrity of it (and quite rightly). Stan is the extreme version of that and "feeding the troll" as it were is only going to fan the flames of his feelings towards this lineup.
It's not that he's direct - it's that he's repetitive, predicable, and tedious. "JJ and Friends" - haha, what a wit.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 As I've said on a few occasions recently just because I don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean it shouldn't be posted. I kinda agree with what he's saying but he's perhaps a little too direct in his approach (for some people).
It seems to be selling well, so there's a market for the nostalgia they're providing. There's less of a market for obscure album tracks or B-sides; those are the people they're losing from the tour, and there's a diminishing number of them.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 Interestingly, I have noticed with this tour there seem to be more people who are choosing not to see the lineup for various reasons but wish the band well. I'm one of them. I've enjoyed reading the reviews.
Dunno if I've fucked up this multi-level quoting, but I'm sure you get the gist.StanInBlack wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:11It's a direct quote so, yeah, they are necessary.
Would be great if you could ignore this forum.StanInBlack wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:11 This is what most do anyway? Even JJB&F themselves, judging by their latest setlists.
ozymandias wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 14:42Look around - it's all a nostalgia trip, that's where live music is for bands like the Stranglers.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 I think this lineup and tour was always going to be questioned. As there's only JJ in the band and if I recall the last tour was supposed to be "the final tour" or whatever. The tours lean more and more on the MKI years and it's always an "anniversary" or "greatest hits" package. The radical thing about this tour is that we have "new" old MKI songs that haven't been played in a while.
At least you're making the tacit admission that he is trolling, that he's "being fed". He's not adding anything of value to this board, he's not offering reasoned debate, he's just attention seeking. I'd ban him from posting tbh.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 So the longer it goes on the more people question the integrity of it (and quite rightly). Stan is the extreme version of that and "feeding the troll" as it were is only going to fan the flames of his feelings towards this lineup.
It's not that he's direct - it's that he's repetitive, predicable, and tedious. "JJ and Friends" - haha, what a wit.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 As I've said on a few occasions recently just because I don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean it shouldn't be posted. I kinda agree with what he's saying but he's perhaps a little too direct in his approach (for some people).
It seems to be selling well, so there's a market for the nostalgia they're providing. There's less of a market for obscure album tracks or B-sides; those are the people they're losing from the tour, and there's a diminishing number of them.theraven1979 wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:08 Interestingly, I have noticed with this tour there seem to be more people who are choosing not to see the lineup for various reasons but wish the band well. I'm one of them. I've enjoyed reading the reviews.
That’s a mischaracterisation. I’d didn’t say I’d ban him because I disagree with him – that would be ridiculous. I’d ban him from *this board* for trolling *this board*, which he clearly is. How ironic that, as a mod, he can’t recognise his own trolling.theraven1979 wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 14:56 I can't ban someone just cos you disagree with their viewpoint. I'd ban about 25% of people on here if that was the case.
The tour is literally called “Fifty Years in Black” – it’s nostalgia by definition.theraven1979 wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 14:56 With the rest of your comments. Yeah you're agreeing with my point about it being a nostalgia fest; I don't think the band and some of the fans accept that though. Not only is it nostalgia you've got 1 original member which leads me on to Stan's "JJ and Friends" comment - yeah perhaps a little amusing but what else should you call it? "E-XTC" have 1 original member, "From The Jam" have 1 original member. Selling it as "The Stranglers" is a bit much.
Other than JJ's spurious claims that they "mix it up", I don't understand the hysteria about them playing the same set - they're playing to a different audience (largely) each night.