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50th Anniversary Setlist?
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When I first saw the band without Dave, the very first time I saw someone else climb up to the keyboard rig it brought tears to my eyes.
I couldn't enjoy the music at all. After about half an hour I started to get into it a little bit..but overall that gig wasn't a good experience for me..
But then what is worse? A band without Dave, and someone else playing his part, or no band at all ?
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I couldn't enjoy the music at all. After about half an hour I started to get into it a little bit..but overall that gig wasn't a good experience for me..
But then what is worse? A band without Dave, and someone else playing his part, or no band at all ?
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Toby doing genetix? Someone said "a fitting tribute" yes the whole thing is. I mean no one thinks any different surely. A 50th anniversary of songs where the bulk of the setlist are Cornwell era songs performed as close to Hugh's original performance as they can be.
Toby doing a great job replicating Dave. I think he even uses some authentic Dave gear (just like Mick does in Straighten Out). Jim being Jet.
A fitting tribute indeed. If you like nostalgia then there's a big dollup being served for the price of a ticket. You pays the price, you get the tribute. If that's your thing then enjoy!
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Toby doing a great job replicating Dave. I think he even uses some authentic Dave gear (just like Mick does in Straighten Out). Jim being Jet.
A fitting tribute indeed. If you like nostalgia then there's a big dollup being served for the price of a ticket. You pays the price, you get the tribute. If that's your thing then enjoy!
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The inmate is running the asylum. Is this not a place made for those who would like to talk about the Stranglers? Listen if it's the name you're concerned with then that's just beaver ass behavior. Settle down. If this community continues like this, then the Stranglers's legacy will vanish with it's current batch of fans. Don't deter people from enjoying the band or calling them fake fans for not following your bibleinblack1975-1990 (best of).StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:13I think you should be asking those that have convinced themselves that a Hugh-less, Dave-less, Jet-less Stranglers is still The Stranglers.twatinblack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:08Booooring!StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 17:50 I suppose it depends on whether or not you consider a ropey version of a great song a tribute or a compliment. To my mind, it's neither... the biggest compliment or mark of respect would have been to leave it alone. Same goes for the Stranglers brand itself.
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The name isn't holy, it never was. Nor were the members. They were and are still people that live thier life. Keep spreading you're opinion and what you find special with the music, but say it don't spray jizz everywhere, takes a while to clean up and it creates a long lasting stench.
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well yes fair enough. Of course I'd rather have the real deal. But the passage of time has made that impossible..theraven1979 wrote:Toby doing genetix? Someone said "a fitting tribute" yes the whole thing is. I mean no one thinks any different surely. A 50th anniversary of songs where the bulk of the setlist are Cornwell era songs performed as close to Hugh's original performance as they can be.
Toby doing a great job replicating Dave. I think he even uses some authentic Dave gear (just like Mick does in Straighten Out). Jim being Jet.
A fitting tribute indeed. If you like nostalgia then there's a big dollup being served for the price of a ticket. You pays the price, you get the tribute. If that's your thing then enjoy!
Jim
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So for now I'll just enjoy this for what it is. Some day soon even this will be gone...
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Yeah completely agree. I think Stan is being a little bitch about it if I'm honest (sorry Stan but c'mon). That said trying to counter Stan's argument with "it's not a tribute" or similar is deludedaldinblack wrote:well yes fair enough. Of course I'd rather have the real deal. But the passage of time has made that impossible..theraven1979 wrote:Toby doing genetix? Someone said "a fitting tribute" yes the whole thing is. I mean no one thinks any different surely. A 50th anniversary of songs where the bulk of the setlist are Cornwell era songs performed as close to Hugh's original performance as they can be.
Toby doing a great job replicating Dave. I think he even uses some authentic Dave gear (just like Mick does in Straighten Out). Jim being Jet.
A fitting tribute indeed. If you like nostalgia then there's a big dollup being served for the price of a ticket. You pays the price, you get the tribute. If that's your thing then enjoy!
Jim
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So for now I'll just enjoy this for what it is. Some day soon even this will be gone...
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I like that someone has written on setlist.com 'first time since x' underneath some of the tunes, ive never seen that before.
Theres obviously been an argument somewhere about how rarely played some of the tracks are.
Theres obviously been an argument somewhere about how rarely played some of the tracks are.
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In a bar before the gig, absolutely full of real fans.
5000 last night paying £50.
2900 tonight paying just over £40.
£366k takings for 2 nights.
Not bad for a tribute act.
5000 last night paying £50.
2900 tonight paying just over £40.
£366k takings for 2 nights.
Not bad for a tribute act.
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Have you ever seen the actual Stranglers @staninblack?StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:52Even better, how about you go and ask several random members of the general public to name a song by The Stranglers. If they can, I guarantee you that three quarters of JJ Burnel & Friends neither wrote it or performed on the studio version of it.kenl wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:43OK, being positive, tell us some of your best memories of watching the Stranglers when Hugh was still there.StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:41
Oh, I have. I've long accepted that nothing lasts forever no matter the lengths that some go to to try and make it so.
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The Stranglers' legacy, particularly talking about from the beginning up through 1990, is very much intact, even if that legacy hasn't really been added to in any notable way since. Even JJB&F acknowledge this by drawing the majority of their set from that period.
No offence takentheraven1979 wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 19:32I think Stan is being a little bitch about it if I'm honest (sorry Stan but c'mon).
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So what do you think would crop up the most? "No More Heroes"? "Peaches"? "Golden Brown"? "Always the Sun"?kenl wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 20:05Have you ever seen the actual Stranglers @staninblack?StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:52Even better, how about you go and ask several random members of the general public to name a song by The Stranglers. If they can, I guarantee you that three quarters of JJ Burnel & Friends neither wrote it or performed on the studio version of it.
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Just answer the question!StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 20:18So what do you think would crop up the most? "No More Heroes"? "Peaches"? "Golden Brown"? "Always the Sun"?kenl wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 20:05Have you ever seen the actual Stranglers @staninblack?StanInBlack wrote: ↑09 Mar 2024, 18:52
Even better, how about you go and ask several random members of the general public to name a song by The Stranglers. If they can, I guarantee you that three quarters of JJ Burnel & Friends neither wrote it or performed on the studio version of it.
My answer would be GB. I'm a teacher, asked a class of 16 year old kids yesterday, nobody had heard of the Stranglers.