Strangler in the light

JJ Burnel, ...., Baz Warne, Jim Macaulay.

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The thing i like the most about this site is hearing fans stories, experiences and opinions . That's something that no book or the band can offer, you can only get that sort of information here and that is very unique. Unfortunately you have all been here for so many years you are all probably too bored to comment on those sort of things anymore but i think they are real gems when i do get to hear about them. I guess i miss my youth of when i used to sit in the pub with my Strangler mates and discuss gigs, events and other happening including songs played at those gigs. Discussing albums, band members and songs in general was always a great past time of mine. Long evening in the pub exchanging stories was just such good fun we did that a lot .
In a way official merchandise and books offered by the band are usually very ordinary and boring stuff and only what they want you to know about and i have found i am cynical at the stories i hear JJ tell so i tend to avoid and happy for the hi-lights i hear from fans in here.
So there is no rush for getting the book from me not just yet anyway.
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I don't have the book yet but will probably get it in due course,if only to add to the others.There's always going to be embellishments and exaggerations in any biography but even more so with JJ who does that anyway.
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DoctorBlack wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 12:32
Ruby wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 19:28 No professional musician would pull such a stunt.There are more important things than money,such as reputation for example.Ellis would've been black listed amongst agents and promoters if he forced a tour cancellation at the last minute and would struggle to get a booking ever again.
Indeed, "professional musicians" like The Stranglers would never have pulled any stunts that led to them getting black-listed and struggling to get bookings!
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I noticed this being advertised to me https://policediariesbook.com/ Wouldn't it be great if somehow we got Jet's stuff wrapped into something nice like that?

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aldinblack wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 14:53 I'm a couple of chapters in so far, seems like a great read to me.
It's a real shame we didn't get one like this from every original member..

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theraven1979 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 17:24 I noticed this being advertised to me https://policediariesbook.com/ Wouldn't it be great if somehow we got Jet's stuff wrapped into something nice like that?

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aldinblack wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 14:53 I'm a couple of chapters in so far, seems like a great read to me.
It's a real shame we didn't get one like this from every original member..

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theraven1979 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 17:24 I noticed this being advertised to me https://policediariesbook.com/ Wouldn't it be great if somehow we got Jet's stuff wrapped into something nice like that?

Jim
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I’m reading the book now - it really is a detailed and fascinating read
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theraven1979 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 11:12 With regards to the "wilderness years" I thought it was sad to hear that Dave turned to JJ around the time of WiR and said "I'm don't feel like being a Strangler at the moment" (quote isn't correct as I don't have the book to hand but it was similar to that).

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When Hugh left, I never listened to anything with Paul or John Ellis. I only started listening to the new stuff when Norfolk Coast was released, and I loved it. Only this last month have I decided to listen to the MKII albums. When I listened to Stanglers in the Night, I thought, it was very good but should have been called Paul Roberts with special guests. The songs are more commercial, but to me it sounded like Dave had been told to play inside the confines of the song "not to paint outside the lines" like his creativity had been stifled, so that the songs were more commercially structured, with guitars leading and the keyboards in the background. Rather than a Stranglers song where they weave in and out through the song, and are front and centre with bass & guitar.
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Grip wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 23:04
theraven1979 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 11:12 With regards to the "wilderness years" I thought it was sad to hear that Dave turned to JJ around the time of WiR and said "I'm don't feel like being a Strangler at the moment" (quote isn't correct as I don't have the book to hand but it was similar to that).

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When Hugh left, I never listened to anything with Paul or John Ellis. I only started listening to the new stuff when Norfolk Coast was released, and I loved it. Only this last month have I decided to listen to the MKII albums. When I listened to Stanglers in the Night, I thought, it was very good but should have been called Paul Roberts with special guests. The songs are more commercial, but to me it sounded like Dave had been told to play inside the confines of the song "not to paint outside the lines" like his creativity had been stifled, so that the songs were more commercially structured, with guitars leading and the keyboards in the background. Rather than a Stranglers song where they weave in and out through the song, and are front and centre with bass & guitar.
Intresting your post which I can agree with a lot of what you have said...
I too for many years didn't listen or follow the band after Hugh it toke me a long long time but eventually like you I came back to never quite the same band again but also thought as do the many on here too that NC probably was one of the bands first real quality and finest albums post Hugh where they finally found themselves and I think too was one of Paul's best as a Strangler too post '90.
Yes their individual input to a song was different to how Dave's parts were constructed and played with Mk1 compared to after and some things can never be the same again and the new chapter of the entity at times with their own creation and credit have been good also but different.
MK1 had the amazing chemistry between the four of them that I feel cannot be repeated again it was special what they had that worked so well but that's in the past and there's always all their recordings there to listen to with admiration and enjoyment.
This now new line up are still doing and sounding very in their own different right who clearly are all happy together with next year being a vedy special one in the bands overall history.....
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ThinkTank wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 12:34 The thing i like the most about this site is hearing fans stories, experiences and opinions . That's something that no book or the band can offer, you can only get that sort of information here...

In a way official merchandise and books offered by the band are usually very ordinary and boring stuff and only what they want you to know about and i have found i am cynical at the stories i hear JJ tell so i tend to avoid and happy for the hi-lights i hear from fans in here.
That's literally what the recent Live X Certs book, and, obviously, Bob's great book Peaches were about :lol: :lol:
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Yeah I think what we need now are more band accounts/manuscripts while they are still living or the families of those sadly gone can give their blessings (if they see it fit) and hopefully reap the rewards. There's photos, diaries tons of stuff out there that would be wonderful to own. Of course I don't wanna sound like a spoilt child in a sweet shop but it would be a shame for the stuff just to end up in a skip or similar.

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Waffle waitress wrote: 03 Nov 2023, 10:37
ThinkTank wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 12:34 The thing i like the most about this site is hearing fans stories, experiences and opinions . That's something that no book or the band can offer, you can only get that sort of information here...

In a way official merchandise and books offered by the band are usually very ordinary and boring stuff and only what they want you to know about and i have found i am cynical at the stories i hear JJ tell so i tend to avoid and happy for the hi-lights i hear from fans in here.
That's literally what the recent Live X Certs book, and, obviously, Bob's great book Peaches were about :lol: :lol:
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Thanks to JJ's book and Elon's announcement I've read the word Grok twice within a few days


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