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Anyone see Horizon's 'Infinity & Beyond' last night on BBC2?
Fascinating stuff.
I was aware of a 'Googol' (the digit 1 followed by a 100 zero's) and a 'Googolplex' (a 1 followed by a 100 Googol's) but not a 'Graham'.
Apparently a 'Graham' is the biggest number, an upper limit to the solution of a pure mathematics problem concerning multi-dimensional cubes, and writing a 'Googolplex' would be physically impossible, since doing so would require more space than the known universe provides.
Er ... quite.
Watch it here if you have an hour to spare, I think you may enjoy it....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... nd_Beyond/


Btw anyone know anything about Telescopes? where to start?
Always wanted one and watching this prog makes me want one more so.
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There was a question on a recent edition of QI regarding the biggest number/Graham issue and the cubes.

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Great head fuck of a programme. A Graham of course isn´t the biggest number if the universe is expanding because there would always be a graham + 1. If the universe is actually finite then graham + 1 = 0.

Of all the infinitive number of alternative worlds in the universe I wonder which one has played Retro Rockets the most on the radio. :roll:
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That was really interesting, thanks for the link. 8)
Was hoping it was going to go into bubble universe theory as well but that must have been a bit of a tangent.
Not sure why Berkoff was on it though, always reminds me of his stints as an interceptor pilot on UFO or the time he was set up on Brasseye... :lol:
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unbroken69 wrote:Great head fuck of a programme. A Graham of course isn´t the biggest number if the universe is expanding because there would always be a graham + 1. If the universe is actually finite then graham + 1 = 0.

Of all the infinitive number of alternative worlds in the universe I wonder which one has played Retro Rockets the most on the radio. :roll:

I think If I had watched this in my 20's when I was experimenting with LSD & Magical Mushrooms and all types of other various substances it would have certainly fucked my head up!
And yeah regarding the Graham, if you add to the Graham it's still a Graham innit!? so it will always be the biggest.

Which universe is playing Retro Rockets the most?
The answer to that is - 3^3^3 (number of 3s is 3) = 7625597484987 3^3^3^3...^3 (number of 3s is 7625597484987) =...g1 = 3^3^3^3^3^3^3^...^30242595069506473839565747913651935179833453536252143003540126026771622672160419810652263169355188780.

....probably.
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bongo wrote:
Arthur Streeb-Greebling wrote:Anyone see Horizon's 'Infinity & Beyond' last night on BBC2?
Fascinating stuff.
I was aware of a 'Googol' (the digit 1 followed by a 100 zero's) and a 'Googolplex' (a 1 followed by a 100 Googol's) but not a 'Graham'.
Apparently a 'Graham' is the biggest number, an upper limit to the solution of a pure mathematics problem concerning multi-dimensional cubes, and writing a 'Googolplex' would be physically impossible, since doing so would require more space than the known universe provides.
Er ... quite.
Watch it here if you have an hour to spare, I think you may enjoy it....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... nd_Beyond/


Btw anyone know anything about Telescopes? where to start?
Always wanted one and watching this prog makes me want one more so.
Cheers.
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i think there is a bigger number than "Graham" ........its a "Golden Graham"..or are they cereal numbers :roll: Sorry guys :lol:
Aye and there's also the Steinhaus–Moser, isn't that a Football team though?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moser%27s_number

M(n,1,3) = nn
M(n,1,p + 1) = M(n,n,p)
M(n,m + 1,p) = M(M(n,1,p),m,p)
and
mega = M(2,1,5)
moser = M(2,1,M(2,1,5))

Self explanatory really innit?!
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Just been t' chippy and Elvis+1 told me what the square root of -121 is/was. 8) What's the chances of that happening?
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suchi wrote:Just been t' chippy and Elvis+1 told me what the square root of -121 is/was. 8) What's the chances of that happening?
is it 121i or 11i?

EDIT: it's 11i. hooray.
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suchi wrote:Just been t' chippy and Elvis+1 told me what the square root of -121 is/was. 8) What's the chances of that happening?

A weird thing happened yesterday, I went out to the shops and the first person I saw was a guy called Graham.
I was going to explain the 'Graham Number' to him being an upper limit to the solution of a pure mathematics problem concerning multi-dimensional cubes and that after learning about the Graham number only last night that he was the first Graham that I had bumped into, but didn't.
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Saw this last night - mindblowing stuff. Who'd have thought Grahams are named after a large unknown number ?

Scary to think that out there there are infinite cnuts in infinite forums.


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theraven1979 wrote:Saw this last night - mindblowing stuff. Who'd have thought Grahams are named after a large unknown number ?

Scary to think that out there there are infinite cnuts in infinite forums.


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theraven1979 wrote:Saw this last night - mindblowing stuff. Who'd have thought Grahams are named after a large unknown number ?

Scary to think that out there there are infinite cnuts in infinite forums.


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