The Magnificent Seven (The Clash)

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The Magnificent Seven (The Clash)

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This song just came up on my playlist lately and I'm still wondering why people claim it to be the first attempt by a rock band to do rap when Hugh's vocals were far more rap-like in the 70s?

It's still a good funky/disco number but The Stranglers were more "rap" in 1977 :smile:
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not one of my favourite Clash songs at all way overated IMO

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aldinblack wrote: 07 Jul 2020, 22:55 not one of my favourite Clash songs at all way overated IMO

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Couldn't stand The Clash from London Calling onwards . Hated this rap south American style stuff . Makes Stranglers jazz stuff seem genius in comparison IMO . It however seems paradoxically to me , the worse The Clash got the more popular they became. Not for me I'm afraid .I don't like rap regardless of who does it .
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Not really a "rock" band but weren't Blondie the first band to do it with Fab Five Freddie?

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Good bass line by Norman!
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Blondie's Rapture was issued (on Autoamerican) November 1980
The Clash's Magnificent Seven was issued (on Sandinista!) ‎December 1980
The Stranglers' Just Like Nothing On Earth was issued (on Gospel) February 1981

All the above were obviously working on rap songs around the same time, it's just that Blondie were the first to get theirs out. Whether you could say that songs like Peaches were rap, depends on your view of what rap actually is. You could say the Stranglers beat the Sugar Hill Gang's Rapper's Delight, but then I could point you towards many Rock Steady records where toasting was prevelant, or the Last Poets, Pigmeat Markham, or even Muhammad Ali's 1963 album - where do you start!
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"Peaches" and "(Get a) Grip (On Yourself)" aren't really rap, more a style of speak-singing that Hugh'll have no doubt cribbed from Love's "Seven and Seven Is", Hendrix's "Crosstown Traffic" and Lou Reed.
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dead ringer wrote: 08 Jul 2020, 22:46 Good bass line by Norman!
Forgot all about that but it’s obvs now listening to it that Simonon couldn’t play like that, probably still had notes drawn on his Bass guitars fretboard. Good idea actually.
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