Jeremy Corbyn : The Labour Party

[PaulinLondon]

He had a rally/conference at the Camden Centre two nights ago.

The same venue where The MiB had their last weekend convention across the road from Kings Cross station.

The queues to get in were huge. Around the block stuff. People just waiting to get in to see The Pope.

The Dolphin pub (some of you must remember it from the last convention) was cashing it in. A lovely boozer behind the venue although the toilets are somewhat, "old".

Camera crews, interviews. The whole works.

I was just walking by and was stunned by the numbers of people (and media crews) wanting to get in to hear what he wanted to say.

Thoughts ?

[jetblacksdad]

He seems like a good bloke. More traditional Labour than the faux-Tories Labour have had in recent years.

Thing is, I don't think the electorate wants socialism on the whole and that is where he might end up doing the Labour party some damage

[Rockula]

Some say they won't vote Labour 'cause they are too much like the Conservatives.
Some say they won't vote Labour 'cause they're too 'socialist'
Some say they won't vote Labour ''cause they're not 'socialist' enough.
Some say they won't vote Labour 'cause Tony Blair took us into an illegal war.

It seems that, on current trends, they can't possibly win.

Why not then go with a new leader who stands by his principles and the principles for which the Labour party was formed?

They still might not get elected but at least it would be a more honest thing to do than this other bunch of Tory-lite numpties running for leader.

Give us back a CHOICE.

Who remembers Tony Benn. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said but at least I knew that HE believed and meant what he said and wasn't just towing some party line.

Give us back some HONESTY and let US decide based on that.

[unbroken69]

Corbyn offers alternatives that the Labour Party have moved away from over the years. He's not the Marxist the right wing press would have us believe, it's become the norm that any political opinion tinted with the tiniest touch of red in it, is somehow dangerous. There is no need for austerity, it's ideological, it's only right there should be a strong voice against it.

Ultimately though I can't see Corbyn offering any strong opposition, while he certainly resonates interest amongst the disillusioned and the left, he crumbles under cross examination. The other day on Radio Ulster, Stephen Nolan asked him would he condemn IRA violence, he kept avoiding giving an answer and eventually hung the phone up, later saying he had been cut off. At an event in Belfast last night, he said that Nolan had been "unnecessarily rude". If he finds a pipsqueak like Stephen Nolan difficult, he really should get out of the kitchen as he'll face far more difficult questions from journalists and opponents in the coming months.

[Greatkudu]

Well I am no political party,but have an interest in what goes on in our country and the world,and frankly Corbyn is a far better candidate than all the rest.But alas it won't help Labour

get elected,and to be honest I don't think they will ever be in power again.The reason Maggie Thatcher changed the demographics of the country Ie:a whole new working class of Tories

supported her and also the country has drifted to the right.The only way Labour can or could ever win again,would be if they had a tory leader like Blair,who with Mr Bush should be in the

Hague charged with war crimes IMHO.Ie getting us in to a war with a lie about weapons of mass destruction.

[dreamtime101]

This is an interesting article, if you’ve got the time to read it:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... y-fear-him

“Thatcher was once dismissed as unelectable, when she became Tory leader, Labour cheered because they thought it meant they had the next election in the bag.”

“The illusion of any given era is that it is permanent.”

[clutchingmyteddybear]

This is an interesting article, if you’ve got the time to read it:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... y-fear-him

“Thatcher was once dismissed as unelectable, when she became Tory leader, Labour cheered because they thought it meant they had the next election in the bag.”

“The illusion of any given era is that it is permanent.”

Really interesting article

[Greatkudu]

This is an interesting article, if you’ve got the time to read it:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... y-fear-him

“Thatcher was once dismissed as unelectable, when she became Tory leader, Labour cheered because they thought it meant they had the next election in the bag.”

“The illusion of any given era is that it is permanent.”

A really interesting read.Thank's.

[saminblack]

That was indeed an interesting article and a lot of it reads true.
Perhaps unlike many people reading this forum I actually do get a vote in the selection because I've been a member of the Labour Party since the age of 16 - which is also incidentally the age when I first saw the Stranglers which shows that when I find something I like and admire I stick with it!
For me however having spent the majority of those intervening years as a member of the party out of power I think you have to accept that the only way you get to put into practice the principles you believe in is by winning. Power without principles is of course pointless but not nearly as pointless as principles without power if you really want to help those who need you the most.
The biggest problem for those of us who don't want Jeremy Corbyn to win (because we don't feel he can then convert those principles into power) is that the alternative is pretty poor. Liz Kendall is simply too right wing and lacks experience while Yvette Cooper has all the experience but despite reaching the very top of politics I can't remember a single thing she's done which shows what an impact she's made. That for me leaves Andy Burnham as my choice – no, he is not perfect but I think he had just the right amount of credible passion and across the broad appeal that might just swing it.
In political terms Jeremy Corbyn does have the X factor – but unfortunately he wouldn't get enough of those Xs placed in the ballot boxes to make his elevation anything other than a mistake from which the Labour Party may never recover.

[iain]

Terrorist support cunt.

[unbroken69]

Also accusations emerging that he's a Holocaust denier.

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[PaulinLondon]

A well respected journal have reported that if he gets into power, Hamas would be invited to Buckingham Palace for lunch with the Queen.

Hmmm....