Worse Stranglers "career move"

LUKEJAKE17 · Post by **LUKEJAKE17** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:08

Alias wrote:I can still remember the shock I felt when I stuck AS on my turntable on it's day of relese and heard for the first time the Sally Army band sneak onto Ice Queen. My first reaction was to return it to the record shop forthwith, demanding a refund as there appeared to be a horn section all over my new Stranglers album.

well werent you horrified in the future when you heared lies and deception! (by the way, AS is different but i like it)

LUKEJAKE17 · Post by **LUKEJAKE17** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:09

ravenlunatic wrote:
Alias wrote:
ThruBeingCool wrote:
I'm not a real cyberman either!

i dont see why its that funny?

Post by **Alias** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:14

LUKEJAKE17 wrote:
ravenlunatic wrote:
Alias wrote:

i dont see why its that funny?

"You know what shave 'em dry is?..."

Post by **ravenlunatic** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:23

LUKEJAKE17 wrote:
ThruBeingCool wrote:
theraven1979 wrote:He was but now he's gone people feel that they can come out of the woodwork and slag him

Jim

The two-faced bastads!
ive never liked paul hes stupid!

Its very easy to slag someone off when they are unable/unlikely to reply. Far more interesting and productive to back up critisism with an inteligent argument as to why that viewpoint has been reached. 'I've never liked Paul, he's stupid' is unacceptable and bordering on offensive, whereas 'In my opinion Paul lacks the inteligence of Hugh and that is borne out in the lower standard of material that was produced by the band after Hughs departure' is acceptable and therefore more likely to promote interesting debate.

LUKEJAKE17 · Post by **LUKEJAKE17** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:25

ravenlunatic wrote:
LUKEJAKE17 wrote:
ThruBeingCool wrote: The two-faced bastads!
ive never liked paul hes stupid!
Its very easy to slag someone off when they are unable/unlikely to reply. Far more interesting and productive to back up critisism with an inteligent argument as to why that viewpoint has been reached. 'I've never liked Paul, he's stupid' is unacceptable and bordering on offensive, whereas 'In my opinion Paul lacks the inteligence of Hugh and that is borne out in the lower standard of material that was produced by the band after Hughs departure' is acceptable and therefore more likely to promote interesting debate.

i think you should take things less seriously. yeah, really i think hes stupid. his silly little routine stage moves he went through was, stupid behavior

Post by **Alias** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:34

ravenlunatic wrote:
LUKEJAKE17 wrote:
ThruBeingCool wrote: The two-faced bastads!
ive never liked paul hes stupid!
Its very easy to slag someone off when they are unable/unlikely to reply. Far more interesting and productive to back up critisism with an inteligent argument as to why that viewpoint has been reached. .

*SPLUTTER*
But surely this, Sir, along with making even porn boring, is what the internet is for????

Post by **ravenlunatic** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:35

LUKEJAKE17 wrote:
ravenlunatic wrote:
LUKEJAKE17 wrote: ive never liked paul hes stupid!
Its very easy to slag someone off when they are unable/unlikely to reply. Far more interesting and productive to back up critisism with an inteligent argument as to why that viewpoint has been reached. 'I've never liked Paul, he's stupid' is unacceptable and bordering on offensive, whereas 'In my opinion Paul lacks the inteligence of Hugh and that is borne out in the lower standard of material that was produced by the band after Hughs departure' is acceptable and therefore more likely to promote interesting debate.
i think you should take things less seriously. yeah, really i think hes stupid. his silly little routine stage moves he went through was, stupid behavior

You should know by now that I never take anything seriously

I agree that his stage act was seen by some as annoying, and alienated a great many fans, but without the poor chap we wouldn't have the band with us today.

Post by **PaulinLondon** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:39

LUKEJAKE17 wrote: i think you should take things less seriously. yeah, really i think hes stupid. his silly little routine stage moves he went through was, stupid behavior

Couple of devolpments if I may :

1) A Forum is where you can air your views.

2) Paul did his best and his contribution, effort and antics were met with approval by III of the original IV until nearly, some would say, 16 years into the process post Shug.

3) We are where we are.

4) We still have The Stranglers.

That is four developments out of my original "couple". There we are.

Good Evening.

Post by **ravenlunatic** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:51

He said I'm too serious Paul, tell him, go on tell him I'm not serious, go on you know don't you, tell him I'm not serious, you understand my humour don't you, don't you? Am I too serious? oh god its too much to bare, I don't want to be serious

Post by **PaulinLondon** » 18 Nov 2006, 01:54

ravenlunatic wrote:He said I'm too serious Paul, tell him, go on tell him I'm not serious, go on you know don't you, tell him I'm not serious, you understand my humour don't you, don't you? Am I too serious? oh god its too much to bare, I don't want to be serious

"Have some more pasta".

Mazec · Post by **Mazec** » 27 Nov 2006, 11:18

In my view, one factor that seems to have been quite destructive in their career was their decision to pussify their rhythm section - a decision which appears to have been quite concious if you have a look at their '80s work.

JJ toned down his massive, ripping bass tone and virtually abandoned his trademark intricate "lead" basslines on albums like Aural and Dreamtime.
The bass parts on those albums could have been played by just about anyone.

Jet took to imitating a drum machine and even seems to have traded in his real kit for an electronic one during the '80s.

To me, the decision to mellow out their ordinarily ballsy rhythm section contributed to the band's stagnation in the '80s as much as Hugh's wimped-out songwriting did. And I can't help but wonder if this decion was made by the band itself, or requested by a slew of major label-sponsored producers.

serya · Post by **serya** » 29 Jul 2007, 08:16

Music being music, I would have to say career-wise it is the problems with the press that had the most lingering ill effect on the band.