He's only 78, Roger Waters was being discussed elsewhere, he’s recently hit 80,
Repeating that megalomaniac dreadful The Wall year after year
Moderator: StanInBlack
He's only 78, Roger Waters was being discussed elsewhere, he’s recently hit 80,
Ah my bad.
The main problem I have with The Wall is that it's basically "Pink Floyd presents The Roger Waters Experience" ... where Animals was angry, The Wall is just whiny. Gone are the beautiful, lengthy musical passages of Wish You Were Here and Animals and instead a monotonous song cycle of multi-millionaire whinging.Jake wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 22:32 Ah my bad.
The Wall has some good songs on it, but it’s not an album that I ever feel inclined towards listening to, but always got time for “Another Brick In The Wall”. I was lucky enough to see Waters a few years back, and he really knows how to put on a good show, even though he neglects most of his solo material, but clearly the majority of the audience don’t go for that.
I like the Final Cut, probably for the very reasons most people hate it, he would have probably been better served doing it with session musicians, which is effectively what the rest of Pink Floyd were on this record. I know it’s quite a universally loathed album but I have a bit of a soft spot for it.StanInBlack wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 22:59
The Final Cut is even worse, and the less said about the AOR/pseudo-Floyd crap the band put out when he left, the better.
I'm on board with what Waters was trying to say with the record - and as a subject matter it's preferable to that of The Wall, I think - but ultimately I find it a real slog to get through. Some terrible vocals, too. It should have been a Roger Waters solo album rather than a Floyd album, in the same way as A Momentary Lapse of Reason should have been a Gilmour solo LP.Jake wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 23:08 I like the Final Cut, probably for the very reasons most people hate it, he would have probably been better served doing it with session musicians, which is effectively what the rest of Pink Floyd were on this record. I know it’s quite a universally loathed album but I have a bit of a soft spot for it.
StanInBlack wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 23:17
I'm on board with what Waters was trying to say with the record - and as a subject matter it's preferable to that of The Wall, I think - but ultimately I find it a real slog to get through. Some terrible vocals, too. It should have been a Roger Waters solo album rather than a Floyd album, in the same way as A Momentary Lapse of Reason should have been a Gilmour solo LP.
Or the spoken part on "The Fletcher Memorial Home" or the "FUCK! ALL! THAT!" backing vocals on "Not Now John"? I mean, I totally get what others see in the record, but yeah... I've always found it a bit of endurance test, that record.
I’ll wager you would probably rather listen to it than most Post Hugh Stranglers albums though, certainly the last coupleStanInBlack wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 23:41
Or the spoken part on "The Fletcher Memorial Home" or the "FUCK! ALL! THAT!" backing vocals on "Not Now John"? I mean, I totally get what others see in the record, but yeah... I've always found it a bit of endurance test, that record.
Sir you have summed it up well, green light from Jet and Pam, and to me that's enough, and like you say Baz 21 years and Jim loves doing it, but I will be very nervous if I go to the first French date? Touch wood? As it seems the chinese Virus is going through the roof again. Lt Kudu.evonx wrote: ↑20 Oct 2021, 22:04 In all fairness JJ got the 'green light' from both Pam Greenfield and Jet Balck to continue as The Stranglers. So if he feels like doing it and still is healthy enough he probably will. Baz is a bonafide member for 21 years now so and obviously loves it so fair play to him too for wanting to continue. For Jim it is a great job being in this band.
They released an album that has been well received in the media (what's left of it anyway), and it's their best album since Norfolk Coast, and they still have 488 ideas left ... long live the future
If I had to choose between listening to The Final Cut or Giants/Dark Matters, I'd settle for no music at all and quite happily listen to the sounds of nature
^ Oh look, the edgelord has returned.