Greatkudu wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 07:56
ThinkTank wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 05:18
StanInBlack wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 17:43
Indeed. It's always been painfully grating to see the former bass player of Toy Dolls acting like he's a huge reason why The Stranglers were so successful. Now they're trying to rope the former keyboard player of Rialto into literally replacing Dave Greenfield in every way, right down to awkwardly singing his songs when his voice doesn't have the right personality or character for it. Just as well it wasn't "Peasant in the Big Shitty", because that would have been even more cringeworthy. Total cabaret.
Painfully grating is exactly how it feels.
I thought Genetix was shocking. I bet JJ couldn't believe his luck he's well and truly tested replacement singers now and could be confident now that anyone will do, he could even use Vic Reeves singing in the style of a club singer and know the fans would support it.
When you look back how great they were It's very sad to see what the Stranglers have become today
Sir all your points are very valid,but the positives are they are still keeping the Hugh songs going and they have really pushed the boat out with the production,I will be going to sunny Portsmouth in 23rd March and will do a brutally honest review,but I totally understand how you feel,I really think Genetix was a big mistake,brave or stupid? You decide?
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Yes a very important comment there it has brought all those wonderful Hugh songs and kept that ship sailing as well i agree
I think Stan made the most valid point of all and that was the personality and character of Dave is missing and as soon as i read that i knew exactly what Stan meant by that it immediately resonated with me because i understood exactly what that meant. Its what i have been trying to say in so many paragraphs and Stan has nailed it in one sentence. This of course is the same for Hugh as well. This is something that is invisible and cant be seen or touched its not tangible like a guitar.
This area the vocals is the one thing that can not be replaced its the one instrument of a band that is unique to one person only and that is always the original singer because only the original singer can be who they are it cannot be copied. Baz can pretend as much as he likes as can all the other replacements but you cant be the character and personality of the authentic and original singer. Well a tribute act can but then they are not pretending to still be the real Stranglers like the current line up are.
So it doesnt matter if you can play a guitar solo better or be younger so have more energy or fill bigger venues all of that means Jack shit because the Stranglers can never be more than a tribute act as the real Stranglers and vocals can not be replaced.
Now some on here can scoff at that and laugh and that's fine but i wonder if its maybe they didn't connect with the original line up like i did it really has been a lifetime of following for me . No Other band growing up had the same effect on me like the Stranglers did so probably that's why other fans can easily take a replacement singer like its not the most important thing but i cant. Maybe the songs on their own is all they want so they have a different view point from me i don't know or care .
I accept that people only want to go for a good time and i understand that but its really the arrogance of Baz and the way he likes to express himself as being brilliant and wants all the praise for someone else's works when he has done nothing to earn that right is what bothers me.
The Stranglers underneath all that production and lighting and glitz is doing nothing more than what Straighten Out provide.
I will look forward to your review Kudu and i believe you when you say you will be brutally honest and i hope its a good gig for you and one that you enjoy.
Its my personal feelings i am expressing here from the backlash of seeing Baz with all his arrogance without having brought anything to the song writing of the band apart from being JJ's best friend and making sure JJ is happy - which doesnt amount to anything in my book its nothing special any arse licker can do that you see it in every work place every day.