Sir Patrick Moore. Gone.

[Greatkudu]

A true Giant of T.V and shared his passion for astronomy.A unique old english gent,a truely great loss.

[fuzzguitars]

Good riddance. Some of his comments about the Germans would have had him arrested had he been talking about blacks, gays etc. Xenophobic twat.

Probably more eccentric and from a bygone era not the only WWII combatant to hate the Germans, it was really the Nazi's he was fighting. He certainly was a colourful individual one of those guys who were good at everything they did. Politics not very convincing Tories, Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP I'm laughing now

[Ribery]

Good riddance. Some of his comments about the Germans would have had him arrested had he been talking about blacks, gays etc. Xenophobic twat.

Probably more eccentric and from a bygone era not the only WWII combatant to hate the Germans, it was really the Nazi's he was fighting. He certainly was a colourful individual one of those guys who were good at everything they did. Politics not very convincing Tories, Monster Raving Loony Party and UKIP I'm laughing now

I'm a Tory and am probably more right wing than Moore was for that matter, as an Englishman who has lived in Germany for many years I resent his comments on the Germans though.
I hate communism for instance but I don't say that the only good inhabitant of a communist country is a dead one.

[MiB81]

I wouldn't have called him liberal really, would you?

Not at all, I was just using that as an example.

You can't win with you, innit?

[paulinblack]

Sorry Ribery, but your comments hit a raw nerve with me. When I was a kid, I remember my Mum saying to me 'If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all'. With Sir Patrick Moore, I want to celebrate his life as a doyen of astronomy. I'm not interested in his views on things that he wasn't qualified to comment on. But maybe that's me - I've never really cared what celebrities think or do.

[Ribery]

Sorry Ribery, but your comments hit a raw nerve with me. When I was a kid, I remember my Mum saying to me 'If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all'. With Sir Patrick Moore, I want to celebrate his life as a doyen of astronomy. I'm not interested in his views on things that he wasn't qualified to comment on. But maybe that's me - I've never really cared what celebrities think or do.

Surely if that comment applies then everyone should stop saying nasty things about the likes of Jimmy Savile then ?

[theraven1979]

Ribery, you're being a little OTT - why comment on this thread if all your going to do is constantly go on about some stupid comment he made in his 89 years on this planet. Now you're tarring him with the same brush as Jimmy Saville

Jim

Sorry Ribery, but your comments hit a raw nerve with me. When I was a kid, I remember my Mum saying to me 'If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all'. With Sir Patrick Moore, I want to celebrate his life as a doyen of astronomy. I'm not interested in his views on things that he wasn't qualified to comment on. But maybe that's me - I've never really cared what celebrities think or do.

Surely if that comment applies then everyone should stop saying nasty things about the likes of Jimmy Savile then ?

[Ribery]

Ribery, you're being a little OTT - why comment on this thread if all your going to do is constantly go on about some stupid comment he made in his 89 years on this planet. Now you're tarring him with the same brush as Jimmy Saville

Jim

Sorry Ribery, but your comments hit a raw nerve with me. When I was a kid, I remember my Mum saying to me 'If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all'. With Sir Patrick Moore, I want to celebrate his life as a doyen of astronomy. I'm not interested in his views on things that he wasn't qualified to comment on. But maybe that's me - I've never really cared what celebrities think or do.

Surely if that comment applies then everyone should stop saying nasty things about the likes of Jimmy Savile then ?

No I'm not I'm simply pointing out that the phrase "If you've got nothing nice to say then say nothing" is ridiculous. Everyone has a right to voice an opinion even if the opinion is not "nice", Moore voiced his and I said what I thought of it.
Btw he regularly courted controversy not just the once and if you dish it out you have to expect to take some back.

[dan-electro]

Sorry Ribery, but your comments hit a raw nerve with me. When I was a kid, I remember my Mum saying to me 'If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all'. With Sir Patrick Moore, I want to celebrate his life as a doyen of astronomy. I'm not interested in his views on things that he wasn't qualified to comment on. But maybe that's me - I've never really cared what celebrities think or do.

Surely if that comment applies then everyone should stop saying nasty things about the likes of Jimmy Savile then ?

[/quote]

No I'm not I'm simply pointing out that the phrase "If you've got nothing nice to say then say nothing" is ridiculous. Everyone has a right to voice an opinion even if the opinion is not "nice", Moore voiced his and I said what I thought of it.
Btw he regularly courted controversy not just the once and if you dish it out you have to expect to take some back.[/quote]

I think there was a lot of emotion behind his comment. He was apparently (even after 60 years) still upset at his fiancee being killed by a German bomb (apparently the only woman he ever wanted to marry). I think it affected him pretty deeply and affected his judgement and skewed his views of Germany. I mean Patrick Moore was a navigator with RAF bomber command and (as with the german bomber personnel that killed his fiancee) they were under instructions to carry out similar duties and he himself (by being in the RAF) would have been responsible for similar tragedies on the ground in Germany. It's basically just the facts of war. Not all Germans were supporters of what their country were part off and I think (like everything else) everyone shouldn't be 'tarred' with the same brush. I just remember him as an eccentric man who was a significant figure in his field. His views were pretty much like his character just eccentric and ill thought at times but when it came to his field he knew what he was talking about and was an inspiration to many people.

[Greatkudu]

Sir Patrick Moore was a true English eccentric and made astronomy popular with a whole generation.I think if you had the love of your life killed in the blitz (it would colour your judgement).I knew an ex scots guards Sgt Major who hated the japanese (wonder why).Oh the little matter that he was a prisoner in singapore and part of the torture was digging your own grave,then blindfolded in the grave with a gun put to your head and the trigger clicked.How dare any body judge someone who has been through this experience.

[Ribery]

Sir Patrick Moore was a true English eccentric and made astronomy popular with a whole generation.I think if you had the love of your life killed in the blitz (it would colour your judgement).I knew an ex scots guards Sgt Major who hated the japanese (wonder why).Oh the little matter that he was a prisoner in singapore and part of the torture was digging your own grave,then blindfolded in the grave with a gun put to your head and the trigger clicked.How dare any body judge someone who has been through this experience.

I know a German who's family were wiped out in the pointless attack on Dresden when the war was as good as over and we simply wanted to show the Russians what we were capable of. He has yet to tell me that the only good Briton is a dead one.
"Eccentric" is no excuse for being an arsehole.

[theraven1979]

I don't think anyone would knock your friend for coming out with a statement like that considering what happened to him

Jim

Sir Patrick Moore was a true English eccentric and made astronomy popular with a whole generation.I think if you had the love of your life killed in the blitz (it would colour your judgement).I knew an ex scots guards Sgt Major who hated the japanese (wonder why).Oh the little matter that he was a prisoner in singapore and part of the torture was digging your own grave,then blindfolded in the grave with a gun put to your head and the trigger clicked.How dare any body judge someone who has been through this experience.

I know a German who's family were wiped out in the pointless attack on Dresden when the war was as good as over and we simply wanted to show the Russians what we were capable of. He has yet to tell me that the only good Briton is a dead one.
"Eccentric" is no excuse for being an arsehole.