First Impressions

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Post by paulinblack » 20 Nov 2004, 02:54

1. Rattus & Raven C-90 Tape: Mate taped it after I told him that I liked Hazel O'Connor's version of Hanging Around. As soon as Longships droned out on my Dad's mono mini TV/Radio/ Cassette player I was hooked ! Couldn't believe that the tape just got better and better, culminating in Sewer, which I couldn't believe !

2. NMH: Told my cousin I'd discovered the Stranglers. She (a year older then me) gave me her copy of NMH which had been given to her by her brother who was a couple of years older still ! Couldn't wait to get home to play it on my Amstrad turntable. Was a little disappointed that the album was not as good as my first C-90.

3. B&W: Saved my school dinner money to buy this from 'The Trading Post' in Stroud (Gizz will know it !). Was the cool place to buy stuff from back then. They ordered it for me. Cost me near 10ukp, which was twice the cost of albums in those days. Was very disappointed with it. Didn't really get into it until seeing the Battersea Park video shown at Flickers Nitespot in Nailsworth ! (Hope you are chuckling Gizz).

4. La Folie & MIB: Got a prefect from school to make a C-90 of these two on the day that it came out. Thought MIB was awful, especially as I had high expectations since the sleeve was so fantastic. La Folie I thought was superb. My mate's record, like many other, skipped during Pin-Up !

5. Stranglers IV: Discovered this whilst on a school exchange in Germany. Managed to get the DJ at a local disco to play WWTW, which, until that point I hadn't heard. Made a change from endless Foreigner tracks !!!!

6. Live X-Certs (And All the Singles up until this point): God bless you Lewis Millington ! The unlikliest looking and sounding punk rocker in the world ! Used to sit next to him at school. Went back to his place to listen to (mainly) The Stranglers in his all black painted bedroom !

7. Collection 77-82: Hated the artwork. Didn't understand at the time why the black bird was on it. Used to always skip WIB !

8. Feline: Liked the 'blackness' of the cover - Bit enbarrassed by the pussy cat ! Heard MSD and thought wtf ? Couldn't believe that it was so mellow and was a little disappointed. At first only like EF, BS and NSG. Absolutely hated Paradise - still do !

9. Nosferatu & Euroman: Thanks Anth Perrins ! Looked for these for ages. He managed to find them and exposed me to them. Only Mothra, White Room, Jellyfish and Freddie Laker did it for me.

10. Aural Sculpture: Couldn't stop playing this. Thought this was a great 'pop' album that would make all of my friends (as well as the rest of the country) sit up and take note. Hmmm, remember thinking that a few times since !

11. Dreamtime: Didn't buy this for years as I had the singles and didn't think there was anything else of any interest on it and frankly I didn't like the cover ! Went to see them at Glos Leisure Centre for the first time during this tour (I think). Remember being glad that they played some old stuff !

12. 10: My first ever cd ! Spent countless hours in my bedroom listening to this on my black Akai cd system ! Loved most of it except for MotE !!

Can't be arsed to do the rest and wish I hadn't bothered with this as it doesnt compare with the rest of the posts in this thread ! Sorry chaps...

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Post by gizzard » 20 Nov 2004, 09:05

paulinblack wrote:3. B&W: Saved my school dinner money to buy this from 'The Trading Post' in Stroud (Gizz will know it !). Was the cool place to buy stuff from back then.
Yep I remember Trading Post!
Great shop. Spent many an hour in there.



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Post by simoninblack2004 » 20 Nov 2004, 14:29

Dom P wrote:
STRANGLERINCANADA wrote:Where? In the magazine, where it was intended to go!
When the magazine is ready, it will be uploaded to our site as the others were.
It won't be ready until we receive a few more articles!
:wallbash:

Are you asking for articles? What on?

And don't say "The Stranglers! Doh!" or I'll nut you...
Anything you like Dom, Stranglers related is better, but anything that fans would find intersting is more than welcome!
You can send articles and photos etc to
info@siscanada.org
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Post by raveninblack » 20 Nov 2004, 14:53

theraven1979 wrote:What`s a radiogramme? ?

Jim
fuck off Jim! :D

If you aint heard Rattus on a radiogramme you aint lived!! :p
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Post by raveninblack » 20 Nov 2004, 14:55

Its basicall a 6ft long coffin on legs, with valves in the back, a pair of 12 inch speakers, a turntable with a darning needle in the arm and a radio....no fm or digital, just LW/MW/SW!!!
And those valves created pure sonic ecstacy!:D
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Post by raveninblack » 20 Nov 2004, 15:01

X cert appeared and was eagerly apprehended but was a bit of a dissappointment really, the production wasn't great.

And then came THE RAVEN!
Everything about it said ACID. From the 3d cover to the lyrics to the guitar and keyboard work outs. Pure quality.

MIB: totally fuckin weird , can't remember much about what I did/thought at the time but remember getting stoned to it on more than one occasion. :homosexual:
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Post by Mathew Stranglers » 21 Nov 2004, 21:19

I only played the first side of Stranglers in the night and was FEARED!...Took me at least 3 weeks to try and tackle the 2nd side without bursting into tears!

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Post by janek » 21 Nov 2004, 21:44

don't have too much time to write by now but i'll try :

1st album that i heard from start to end : hits and heroes - why so much keyboards and go buddy go is a great song, golden brown is really great !!

the raven : how many singers do they have? we are the meninblack sound i took as stupid

aural sculpture - great first side. skin deep and no mercy are great !!! the second i though is weaker

no more heroes : why are they so angry?

coup de grace : tonight, qoup de grace and known only onto god are great. why there's so quiet guitar on this record?

10 : great opening track, beginnig of 96 tears brought tears to my eyes (it was so funny to me). very dull sound

WiR - fantastic 3 first tracks. the rest can't listen to.

about time - remember beginning of golden boy which reminded me ... nirvana and i remeber noticing great violin solo on Face. i thought that this record was a little respose to britpop because of these strings in the songs. thats why i liked the title

GATMIB : is it the stranglers or kraftwerk? very strangesongs. great opening, meninblack still laugh

la folie : great opening track, oh, golden brown is on it too?

dreamtime : what a 80's sound :) liked it on was it you, big in america & ... reap what you sow .... oh, always the sun is on it

rattus : what a dull album :) i know almost all the songs before listening to the record :) quite disapointed because of the sound of sewer, which was 10X better live
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Post by ThruBeingCool » 21 Nov 2004, 23:54

janek wrote:the raven : how many singers do they have? we are the meninblack sound i took as stupid

coup de grace : tonight, qoup de grace and known only onto god are great. why there's so quiet guitar on this record?

rattus : what a dull album :) i know almost all the songs before listening to the record :) quite disapointed because of the sound of sewer, which was 10X better live
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Oh dear! :wallbash: .......

'rattus' = dull?, The Raven only inspires one comment i.e. 'The Meninblack' sounding stupid, then praise for 3 tracks from 'CDG'. Doh!

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Post by philjxn » 22 Nov 2004, 01:29

Ok....confessions of an aging stranglers fan !

It all started out with a woman, i'm being respectful ere.,,she was a metalhead...and I at the time was a spotty yoof. It was manchester late 70's. Scene of industrial decay...horrible shitty council houses, you passed one particularly horrible estate on the train into the city centre that used to be known as the berlin wall.

Said person...introduced me to the a number of metal bars downtown....This liaison led to two things..a) a discovery of the wonders of old fashioned trains with compartments and doors that close and windows ...ahem and b) rare records...in the manchester "underground market" ...god knows if its still there...doubt it...

twas here that i first ever heard the stranglers....sewer if I remember correctly...next exposure was going down to wembley for a yoof cup thing against the germans...with a bunch of sweaty schoolies (must have been 15 or so) - a tape of rattus was doing the rounds with the porno mags and pilfered booze ...life on the rear seats...I had a crap mono tape recorder- woolies special.

Out of these sweaty and umble beginnings - passion grew. Rushed off and brought NMH the day it was released....saw them a gazzillion times sleeping on couches, floors, phone boxes. Highs - getting all my stuff signed after a liverpooly poly/uni gig and being invited for a lift on the bus (south)/...lows...sleeping in piss stinking phone boxes after missing trains and buses back from gigs all over the wild blue yonder...oh yeah...and watching the postman out of my window as he folded and then successfully snapped in half my japanese import version of choosey susie !!

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Post by ThruBeingCool » 22 Nov 2004, 02:25

Part 1

I think this thread has mutated into 'how did u first get into The Stranglers?' rather than 'first impressions of an album'.So be it.

"If you throw enough mud, some of it will stick!"

The above really sums up for me how I got into The Stranglers. However it wasn't just The Stranglers for me it was PUNK ROCK on the whole.

When punk first happened in 1976, when the original bands were playing but without any releases the likes of me (just a boy of 13, living outside London & non the wiser) were oblivious to it.

During 1977 punk bands actually got to release records, a small minority of singles made the charts! Enter The Stranglers! I'm sure that around this time I actually read more about the punk rock explosion than I heard music by the bands involved.

And to an outsider (like me!), who wasn't down the 100 club every week, a member of The Bromley Contingent, or in on the inside for whatever reason etc all u had to go by was the media hype! AND WHAT FUCKING HYPE IT WAS!

It seemed for a while that some punk rock scandal made the papers everyday regarding The Sex Pistols & yes, The Stranglers. There's been so much written about punk over the years where The Stranglers are criminally ignored or their role is played down. The Stranglers, particularly Hugh , have always stated that they never were a punk band in the first place. However!...none of this matters! In the eyes of the british public, during the outbreak of punk in the late seventies..THE STRANGLERS were the main culprits, or at least them & the SEX PISTOLS were the biggest threat in terms of corrupting the youth of yesterday!

The Stranglers were a punk band.The music, the image & the way they were percieved - all punk! For the british public in 1977, The Stranglers actually gave them a sound they could hate as well as an image. But in reality everbody (almost!) loved it,....

So, there I am during '77, still at school. There are parties where I hear the likes of 'No More Heroes' in the background. Not over-impressed with this song in particular on first listening - probably 'cos I'm more interested in a girl....aah..shit don't really wanna go there! Thing is, wasn't a massive fan of 'Heroes' until after many plays!
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To cut along story short-during '77/'78 Punk was affecting me on & off. One of my mates played me 'Sewer' on his Radiogramme whilst indroducing me to the likes of The Rezillos , X-Ray Spex and others at the same time.. ('The Day The World Turned Day-Glo' in orange vinyl particularly grabbed my eye!) First time I ever heard a 'DEVO' record there as well.RESPECT!

Back at school ,the odd geezer with a bit of taste would turn up with a '999' single and during the evening school youth club disco some enlightened soul managed to get a 'Vibrators' or 'Buzzcocks' single played!

I remember one of the records that really changed my life! 'Gary Gilmores Eyes' by The Adverts. One Sunday night at home ,but still at school (if u catch my drift!), shaving off my bum fluff! One of my first shaves but I have a radio beside me, listening to the Top20 (or 30!)

I have never fucking heard a record like this in my fuckin' short life! The band sounded like they were already dead (or at least in their last throws of death!)..chanting.."Lookin' Thru Gary Gilmores Eyes, Looking Thru Gary Gilmores eyes.." .. ad infinitum! ....I think this record alone sold me on punk! :)

So, aurally I gradually start to get the vibe...The Stranglers seem to have more songs than the other bands though! Visually, I see the '5 Minutes' promo clip on TOTP & chance upon a bikers magazine in the school coffee bar. "That's the bloke out of The Stranglers on the cover" , I think subconsiously...looks cool as fuck! It's JJ.

Socially I'm divided into 2 camps. At school I hang around with my 'grammar stream' chums from my class. Their musical tastes revolve around ELO! Outside of school I still mix with the riff-raff! :D not true!

Summer comes ,I go away to Chapel Of St Leonards (near Skeggy) with me mam & Grandma....go to the arcades during the day & keep sticking 'Straighten Out' on the jukebox..Ooh! & a bit of Blondie if memory serves me well!

(There's a point somewhere here where I hear 'Walk On By' on the radio. The new single at that point. No introduction.I think to myself - "That sounds like The Stranglers" - which indeed of course it is! I have never bought a Stranglers single at this point! I, then go on to purchase my first Stranglers record when I get home !The mud has stuck!)

Go home to Nottingham but during the rest of the school summer holidays of 1978 I spend more time with the mates from 'da hood'! One of them has a new 'music centre' in his bedroom! The rest of us are very impressed by the spoilt brat but even more so by his copy of 'Black & White' which is hot off the press. I'm repeatedly played 'Curfew', 'Threatened' & 'Toiler' over the summer shut-down.....O.K...I'm FUCKING SOLD!...

Shortly afterwards I make my first 2 Stranglers album purchases! 'Rattus'& 'B & W' on the same day!

Yeah!..The Stranglers are on their 3rd album by the time I really get into them, other punk bands are on their 2nd albums or 1st but are well established & on 'majors'...

So, I missed the boat by 18-24 months in terms of being an original punk rocker, but there was still alot going off at this point as well!

:(

This is only part1 btw...u want more? :glare:

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Post by janek » 22 Nov 2004, 09:15

ThruBeingCool wrote:'rattus' = dull?, The Raven only inspires one comment i.e. 'The Meninblack' sounding stupid, then praise for 3 tracks from 'CDG'. Doh!
the raven needs time to dig into it ... when i was saying that rattus is dull, it was a joke, beacuse i know almost all of the songs before (from hits and heroes for excample). you know, this record gave me london lady and ugly (which i don't like). the rest i already knew

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